When mimicry is taken as the real deal

Watch the youtube. Have you done that yet? Oh good. Now the clever octopus does a top-notch jobbie of impersonating or mimicking the seaweed – but that is all it has done, it has not “changed into seaweed” has it?

Yet, when we talk about transgender (and SRS) that is exactly what they want you to believe is happening – a magical transformation has taken place, and the change of appearance means that, in the twanz case, the person has become that opposite sex. Lets take another look at our octopus…

I am fairly certain that most people will agree with me, in the first frame, this is an octopus who is just mimicking seaweed, and has not actually transformed into seaweed. There is more to being seaweed than just looking like seaweed – this is a fact.

So too with biological sex. There is more to being female than just looking like, or approximating, a female.

This is really a companion post to UndercoverPunk’s latest post. There is more to being a female than just looking like one. We have a biological, reproductive reality, which can affect our daily or longterm lives because of that reality.

I experience a regular monthly menstrual cycle. Frankly, it can be quite intrusive on my daily activities. […]

FEMALE reproductive functioning is simply not like any other metabolic system. Not only do reproductively female bodies endure the cyclical interference of our menstrual cycles (and menopause), but most fertile women can and do create new LIFE (aka a child) with their gonads and “internal morphological sex” organs. To use one’s ‘sex’ this way, to give Life is, well, a LIFE CHANGING reality. The knowledge that you could become unwittingly responsible– through accident or rape– for another person’s LIFE is incredible. It’s daunting. I don’t know how heterosexual women are supposed to enjoy PIV with that on our backs, but you can visit FCM’s blog to read more about that.

Female reproductive organs and processes have physical consequences to female LIVES. Female fertility can not be constructed out of social interactions. Female fertility is biologically constructed with objectively demonstrable physical effects.

That function, that reality, is not one that any non-female can ever truly experience. But this of course, is just one aspect of the reality of being female – but it is an important one nonetheless – reproductive vulnerability. This is where sex matters, and it is the primary protection of our vulnerability that is eroded away with most of the trans legislation being brought in. The problem with most of the existing and proposed trans legislation is that it comes at the expense of biological females – trans want access for anybody and everybody who “identifies” as “woman” to be able to enter female bathrooms, changing rooms, and domestic violence shelters – inclusive of sexual predators.

I have one thing to say to that, twanzworld:

So until any of the proposed trans legislation takes into account the actual risk and reality of biological females, count me out. Get your house in order, and ensure that perverts and sexual predators don’t tag along with you into the ladies bathroom.

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Related posts:
On hairdye and hormones

Sex matters, gender is bollocks

17 thoughts on “When mimicry is taken as the real deal

  1. DaveSquirrel Post author

    Apologies to anyone that sees octopus and immediately thinks of batter and lemon juice:

    And apologies for the really bad segway to use the youtube of the squirrel that I found! 😛

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  2. ibleedpurple

    That function, that reality, is not one that any non-female can ever truly experience. But this of course, is just one aspect of the reality of being female – but it is an important one nonetheless – reproductive vulnerability.

    Yes!

    My eyes basically want to roll back into my skull when I hear women being accused of transphobia when they emphasize the many dangers we have to face because of our biology. Worldwide women are dying because of compulsory fucking. How can you call yourself a feminist if you refuse to think this is less important than helping trans to maintain the delusion that they are the same as born women or men? Unbelievable.

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  4. Nicky

    ibleedpurple, it’s happening all the time and twanz people have been stomping over intersex and women. They even attack anyone who doesn’t help them maintain their delusion and lash out like an abusive man. They even bully anyone who doesn’t accommodate them like a man.

    It is funny how twanz like to think that they are feminist when they don’t even give an ounce of concern to women worldwide. If they think they know what feminist is, then I sure have a bridge in Brooklyn I like to sell to them.

    For them to accuse anyone of transphobia, is nothing more than a collection of letters that is meaningless. For twanz to call anyone transpobia means that they have nothing logical to say and they simply resort to attacking anyone like a Man.

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  5. witchwind

    Hello,
    ” until any of the proposed trans legislation takes into account the actual risk and reality of biological females, count me out. Get your house in order, and ensure that perverts and sexual predators don’t tag along with you into the ladies bathroom.”

    I hope you don’t mind me asking, but this sentance got me confused: do you mean that there would be some trans legislation worth supporting if it took women’s reproductive vulnerability into account? I mean, even if there’s no perverts, laws protecting people’s “right” to reinforce patriarchal sex roles (mostly through mutilation by proxy and self-harm) seem pretty wrong in themselves to me. That is, I don’t believe twanzism can be separated from perversion anyway, as it’s inherent to anything patriarchal.

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  6. witchwind

    “It is funny how twanz like to think that they are feminist when they don’t even give an ounce of concern to women worldwide.”

    Lol, so true! I have yet to read a twanz manifesto, article or anything near it, that shows any concern about women. How can you say you’re feminist when you don’t even give a damn about women? (But then no matter how blatant the contradiction, they never seem to flinch) They bring everything back to themselves and their experiences – just like all regular men do – and blackmail feminists who exclude them. All they care about is how to replace and erase women. Whether it’s conscious or not makes no difference.

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  7. DaveSquirrel Post author

    I hope you don’t mind me asking, but this sentance got me confused: do you mean that there would be some trans legislation worth supporting if it took women’s reproductive vulnerability into account?

    Actually, I would. Despite all the bad press about me and other radfems, we are quite reasonable, and do recognise the ‘rights’ of others. But, the big problem with most of the existing and proposed pro-twanz legislation is that it stomps all over females’ rights – and that is so not on.

    There are reasonable trans out there, but they are the minority. Any trans that just wants to get on with their lives, quietly, and without an excuse for a quick dollar via litigation; fine and dandy. However, they are not the majority, they are the minority. And it generally comes down to the TG and TS split (transgender vs transsexual). TGs are the ones causing all the problems, both for females and for TS. The TGs want legislation to be so fucking inclusive of any dude who has ever thought of putting on a pair of nylons, and declaring them genuine “trans” who should be allowed to access all female spaces just because he self-declares he is transgender (not even “woman” in a lot of cases). The majority of the TGs don’t want full SRS (ie most actually want to keep their dick) vs the TS who consider de-dicking essential. So yeah, the TGs and packing dick, are most definitely NOT welcome in female spaces, and I really don’t give a shit how good their make-up is, or how big their fake boobs are, they are not welcome. The TS, who want/get the surgery, don’t make a big pervy deal out of getting into the women’s toilets, and don’t undermine feminism/women – are fine by me, I don’t have any objection to them. Ideally, I don’t want to see any humans go through the trans thing, being a lot of unnecessary surgery/medication, but gender role conditioning starts very young and most do not know how to overcome it (I consider it a form of submission to the societal gender role conditioning). As a radfem of course, I actively fight the gender roles and gender role conditioning (abolitionist of gender roles).

    So yeah, probably shocked a segment of my audience here – that I/we are just unreasonably twanzphobic, but there are sound idealogies behind our views, not a knee-jerk prejudice. But we do have to come out fighting hard, because we are grossly outnumbered (there are far more tranz in the world than there are radfems).

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  8. witchwind

    thanks so much for the extensive reply and for clearing it up, I was indeed confused between the use of TG and TS, now I understand your position! 😀

    Yet what confuses me even now more is why keep TSs, even with SRS, out of criticism? As far as my experience goes, The behaviour of TSs has been no less invasive towards women and feminists than TGs. I’d love to simply ignore the minority of TSs as a men’s issue that isn’t of feminists’ concern, but I’ve seen so many instances of de-dicked TSs infiltrating intentionnally non-mixed feminist groups/orgs and then making some women feel unconfortable, centering issues around their experiences of ‘transitioning’, sometimes breaking the group down or splitting it up even sabotaging it till collapse.

    The only “radical feminist” TS I know of, even though he’s not aggressively intrusive still sees no trouble in calling himself a radical feminist materialist while being a man (a man without a dick is still a man), still benefiting socially from his heterosexual relationship, imitating subtle feminine behaviour and asking other feminists to call him “she” + by his female name version. This just drives me mad. Would he not out as TS but look like a regular dude, even with his dick chopped, I’m pretty sure the lesbian feminists wouldn’t accept him in their close circles, and find it deeply suspicious that a guy claims to be ‘radical materialist feminist’ in the first place. And what happened to learned experiences of being the oppressor from which those feminists are trying to get free? I mean there’s no way I’m going to share anything with him about my life as female, but if he’s there it means it reduces my freedom to talk.

    Do there exist any de-dicked TSs not claiming to be women/not pretending to look or pass as women in some way through femininity and not trying or wanting to get in either women-only spaces or feminist spaces, and generally just minding their own business? I’ve never heard/seen of it so far, and even if that tiny minority existed, I would still criticise it as a patriarchal practice, as men in patriarchy benefitting from this practice just as any other patriarchal practice, as in, promoting misogyny and the erasure of women, the replacement of women by men. (Whether the TS in question is conscious or not about it doesn’t matter).

    “So yeah, probably shocked a segment of my audience here – that I/we are just unreasonably twanzphobic, but there are sound idealogies behind our views, not a knee-jerk prejudice.”

    Actually what surprised me was that it wasn’t critical of TS rather than unreasonably twanzphobic, but I always believed your views were based on sound ideologies and couldn’t agree more with everything you say on TGism!
    Am I too twanzphobic for saying this? Discriminatory?
    Sorry for such a long comment.

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  9. witchwind

    “Actually I would”
    Oooooh damn I think I completely misunderstood your reply, you said you would mind me asking the question, not that you would support the said legislation?
    Argh I’m dead sorry, won’t bother you again.

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  10. DaveSquirrel Post author

    Nah, the “I would” was a typo on my behalf – a long night, I am tired and grumpy at this point.
    The observation between TS v TG has been more of a recent thing, in the last year or so. And the TS hate the TGs. The intersex hate the TGs. The radfems are pissy with the TGs for their loudmouth efforts at getting all this anti-female legislation in, without breaking a nail (when was the last TG mass demo in the streets?) That’s right, never. This shit gets handed to them, because they are disruptive to female-only spaces, and that keeps women oppressed.

    ETA: I am not sure if the “I would” was meant to be “I wouldn’t” or “I would like to”. As I said, a long night…

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  11. Nicky

    Intersex do hate the TGs and the TS and that’s because they have co-opted, appropriated and stole intersex people’s life experience and community. They have done the same thing, to women and lesbian everywhere. It’s what they have done to people is why intersex people hate TG/TS people.

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  12. ibleedpurple

    Okay, I meant:
    “How can you call yourself a feminist if you think this is less important than helping trans to maintain the delusion that they are the same as born women or men? Unbelievable.”

    Got my sentence structures mixed up there. Will make sure to comment again when my intellectual faculties are fully functional again and I don’t need 4 days to figure out why something sounded funny, argh.

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