Sex matters, gender is bollocks

When little Dante is old enough, his parents will sit him down and ­explain that ­“Mummy couldn’t have babies… so daddy did it for her.”

OK, so I thought this was just another one of those “pregnant manz” stories (yawn yawn, pregnant manz was born with uterus and ovaries), but wait! There’s more!

The “woman” you can see “breastfeeding” in the picture is actually the biological father, and the woman “man” sitting next to “her” is the biological mother. Yep. Both twanz.

Now I had to put the breastfeeding in scare quotes, because that is being faked as well. There is a bag of formula milk (I believe the one you can see in the photo) rigged up (somehow) and they are pretending to breastfeed the baby.

Given that the biological mother is SITTING RIGHT THERE probably lactating, this seems just a tad bad for the baby, and for the biological mother – breastfeeding helps contract the uterus, not to mention breast milk helps with the baby’s immune system.

But wait! There’s more!

These two, supposedly pretending to be the opposite of their born sex (you know, the role play that is jendah) were not doing a terribly good job of it, because the pregnancy was “an accident”. Oh yeah. The “woman” was still packing penis (since removed) and the “man” still had all her ladybits. So me thinks they did not take their jendah-roles terribly seriously in the bedroom when the “woman” inserts his penis into the “man’s” vagina. DOIN’ IT WRONG, DOIN’ IT WRONG! Man, I’m not even twanz and I just know this isn’t playing the jendah dress-ups to their logical conclusion.

 

We know what the baby’s BIOLOGICAL SEX is, but what will his jendah be??? One thing is for sure, this kid is going to grow up screwed.

Anyway, the news story in the Mirror is basically incomprehensible due to all the role-playing and biological fact getting in the way.

Sex swap miracle baby born to woman who was man and man who was woman

When little Dante is old enough, his parents will sit him down and ­explain that ­“Mummy couldn’t have babies… so daddy did it for her.”

That’s because this cute toddler was born into one of the world’s most amazing families. His mum Emily was born a boy. And his father Cai was born a girl.

Doctors were baffled, believing it was medically impossible for “dad” Cai, 24, to give birth, especially as Emily was also thought to be sterile.

Cuddling their hazel-eyed son, now 22 months old, the proud ­parents explain how it happened.

“We didn’t plan on having a baby,” says Emily, 28. “We didn’t try to make it happen nor did we think it could happen. We were planning on adopting because, as far as we knew, having a baby on our own was ­impossible separately, let alone together.

“How it happened is a mystery, but we’re very grateful for it. I guess when two people love each other a lot, then a lot of special things can happen.”

It was love at first sight when the couple – whose surname we are not ­revealing for their protection – first met. Neither had undergone surgery but they were living as the opposite sex and moved in ­together within three weeks, knowing they truly understood each other.

“Being transgender is a pain, actually, and ­certainly not something you do on a whim,” says Emily. “Then I met Cai and it was ­amazing. I thought such things only happened in fairy tales.”

Office worker Emily was waiting for surgery to remove her male parts and had been taking female hormones since the age of 16. The couple had ­unprotected sex, but believed there was no risk of pregnancy because the ­formerly female Cai was on a high dose of the male hormone testosterone and was thought to be “chemically sterile”.

“I had long since resigned myself to the idea that I’d never be able to have biological children of my own,” says Emily. Having been on hormones for close to a decade it was considered impossible for me.”

What’s even more remarkable is that cautious Cai also had birth control injections just to be safe. But nine months on from their first date he discovered that   his ­“stomach upset” was in fact a baby. “I was seven months’ pregnant and I didn’t know it,” he says. “I’d put on 18lbs but didn’t feel the baby move.”

Emily, born as a boy called Scott, is Dante’s ­biological ­father. She had a full sex-swap operation a few months after the birth, and admits she felt so broody during the preg­nancy she wished she could have given birth instead.

Despite the unplanned, unorthodox pregnancy, the couple are now doting parents, each taking on the role of their new sex. Emily “breast-feeds” Dante with formula milk using a special attachment.

“I’ve always felt like the mum,” says Emily. “Regardless of anything else there is a lot of love in our family. We both ­absolutely adore our son, and the amount of joy he’s brought us is amazing. He is being raised in a loving, nurturing ­environment. That’s a fantastic way for a child to grow up. Our son is great. He’s ­perfectly healthy in every way.”

Although Emily went ahead with her sex-swap operation to make her fully a woman, Cai says he is happy as he is.

“As far as how we see each other, we’re a heterosexual couple,” says Emily. “He’s a man but has female parts. I’m a woman that once had male parts.”

Emily, who looks so feminine that most work colleagues don’t know her background, adds. “When I’m at work people just assume that I’m just an average mother with a kid and husband.”

The couple, who live in rural ­Pennsylv­ania in the US, now star in a ­TV ­document­ary called Pregnant and Transgender. And as Dante grows up there will be no secrets. “We’ll be upfront with him,” says Emily. “We’ll explain the situation, and that it doesn’t mean anything is wrong or that he’s different. We will say mummy couldn’t have babies so daddy did it for her.”

Cai adds: “Some say we shouldn’t have had a child, that we will confuse him growing up. But we’ll say, ‘We did things a little differently but here you are.”

Cai admits going through a stage of questioning his decision to change sex. “I remember one morning watching a couple in church with a baby,” he says. “It was physically painful for me because I am sitting there thinking that’s what I want and I will never have.”

Now that dream has come true Cai says he knows exactly what his role is. “I really do feel like the dad,” he says.

30 thoughts on “Sex matters, gender is bollocks

  1. radfemcrafts

    24 and 28?!?! What are they, working in the coalmines 14 hours a day? They look haggard. The flat female brow and soft female chin on Cai give him a downs syndrome look.

    You’re right though, funny how being manly man and femmey girl didn’t preclude Emily from giving Cai an old fashioned dicking. The body wants what the body wants and sometimes the body wants to flat iron its hair, slap on some lipstick and heels and stick its dick into a hole. Who among us can’t relate to that. Do you think Emily shouted, “Who’s your daddy?” at Cai during their tender lovemaking? One can only hope.

    OK, one more thing, because taking T and the estrogen in birth control at the same time? Is that a great idea?

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  2. FabLibber / DaveSquirrel Post author

    And I might add, that as both had low fertility (probably largely due to the crap they were taking) are we to believe that “who’s yer daddy” happened just the once????

    I don’t think so!
    They were doin’ it wrong like rabbits.

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  3. KatieS

    I’m sorry, trying to follow that just gave me a headache. I need to go lie down, now. . .

    One thing about it made sense, though First they met: “I thought such things only happened in fairy tales.” Then they got a baby: “How it happened is a mystery, but we’re very grateful for it.” It’s likely such things only do happen in fairy tales, which is where they are. Yes, the elves actually brought the baby, put him under a cabbage patch, and that’s where the parents found him. Or maybe the stork. Ok, cabbage patch for boys and storks for girls. Or is it cabbage patch girls, and storks, boys. That whole sex at birth thing, now I’m confused about it, too. But still, a baby, either by elves or stork. Not so mysterious after all, I hope that clears up the whole confusion. . .

    [I really am alarmed about the hormones and what it might do to the baby’s health short or long term].

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  4. myrtle

    Me too Katie. This will be a child with neurological damage for sure, and often that doesn’t become clear until some or many years on.

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  5. FabLibber / DaveSquirrel Post author

    If all those hormones (by both parents) don’t fuck up the kid, the parents – with their heads in lah lah land – certainly will.

    I find it hard to believe that both of them “are rilly X or Y inside” given their repeated exploits under the covers (being the opposite jendah and all).

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  6. cherryblossomlife

    If it wasn’t any clearer that womb envy is the driving force behind all of patriarchy’s shennanigens.

    It’s really really sad watching a post partum mother being pushed out by someone who has no respect for what her body has just gone through. Sometimes it’s her mother or her mother-in-law, other times it’s the father. Jealousy of a mother’s bond with her baby is nothing new. But this is taking it to another level 😦

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  7. Sargasso Sea

    Can I sue for psychological damage caused to myself by this Circus of Reproductive Freeks?

    Chonky and I never had the luxury (lolol!) of having a dick between us; two wombs, 1 child, no envy!

    Also, have I mentioned that I *heart* RFC lately?!

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  8. luckynkl

    I was one of the first to use that breast feeding contraption. It was experimental back in the day. I signed the release forms, tried it out, and fortunately, it worked for me. What had happened is my breast milk started to dry up and I wasn’t producing enough. But the baby refused take a bottle (which isn’t uncommon in breast-fed babies), Thus the contraption. It’s a bottle which hangs around the neck. 2 thin tubes feed out of it which attach to each nipple. When the baby suckles, the baby now gets both breast milk and formula. The baby knew the difference tho. She looked at me puzzled like “What the hell is that? That’s not my mommy’s milk.”

    So the contraption was invented for very real reasons. Not so mentally ill men can play house and pretend they’re mommy. Too bad his mother didn’t abort that abomination. I swear men’s minds have gone completely around the bend.

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  9. luckynkl

    P.S. Women are going to jail for taking drugs during pregnancy, but it doesn’t apply to trans? WTF? FFS, they want to charge women for child abuse for just smoking a cigarette or having a small glass of wine during pregnancy, but T is alright?! Any drug taken during pregnancy goes through the baby’s bloodstream. I want to know why these two weren’t charged with child abuse, the two of them put into strait jackets, and that baby removed from them?

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  10. FabLibber / DaveSquirrel Post author

    The device was obviously designed for weaning off (or supplementing) breastmilk, particularly those babies that will not go straight to formula. The few babies that do go straight to formula are used to the taste – they don’t particularly care about the packaging – so the contraption is not necessary. The device in this case is being used to do pretendy-games, to pretend that the “mother” is breastfeeding, the baby is not getting any real breastmilk in the mix, therefore, just bottlefeeding straight formula is sufficient. Back in my mother’s day, when breastmilk was not sufficient, it was just alternate feeds breast/bottle, no fancy contraptions. I guess you could achieve the same 50/50 type mix by expressing breastmilk and mixing it with formula, delivering it in bottle.

    The “Emily” in this case is a female-usurper, just like Elagabalus, who seeks to wholly replace ‘the female’ – it is nothing to do with female solidarity (as some of them claim), they seek to supplant the female. Nowhere is it clearer than in this article, with pretendy breastfeeding (when the kid is being fed 100% formula), and the biological mother is just sitting by watching this performance. It is delusion to the extreme. “Emily” in this case is taking the centre stage as “the mother” – the respect/reverence of motherhood is tied to the actual physical commitment of the mother, going through the pregnancy and childbirth – ie she has achieved something and given greatly of herself. This “Emily” is taking all the glory for that in this case, and did nothing other that what every other male does in the process, five minutes of PIV, end of physical contribution. Doesn’t stop him wanting all the glory of this kid, whilst the actual female who gave birth is elbowed out to the sidelines, watching on during pretendy breastfeeding.

    Back in March I highlighted that medical frankenscience was already experimenting with uterine transplants:
    https://twanzphobic.wordpress.com/2011/03/26/mary-shelley-meets-margaret-attwood/

    The concern with this, if taken to the trans-usurper conclusion, is that they will be harvesting the reproductive organs from biological females, and transplanting them into these female-proxies. Given reproductive moral history, you can bet that they will be harvesting the reproductive organs of poor women in third world countries for this, just like they do with rent-a-womb surrogate pregnancy. After all, females are regarded as a commodity, not human.

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  11. KatieS

    Hold the phone! They are going to have a reality TV show.

    Were they really both on hormones? Or is this partly a setup to get on TV and possibly launch a show biz career? It doesn’t mean they aren’t trans, but perhaps they aren’t being truthful about the hormones. Like that “Balloon Boy” incident where the father put his child at risk to get onto reality tv.

    If they are being truthful, then, if you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have PIV sex! If you ARE on hormones, don’t risk pregnancy. That is abusive to a child. There are all kinds of ways to have sex that don’t include PIV. This is just so messed up.

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  12. parallelexistence

    The thing that got me about the article was the whole “Drs are baffled… miracle” angle.

    Except I don’t think any genuine medical Dr is going to be “baffled” by the simple biological fact that sperm+egg+uterus = potential pregnancy. Even if that pregnacy is put at risk by the sperm donor (male) and egg donor and uterus owner (female) being hopped up on unknown quantities of artificial hormones.

    It’s not miracles here it’s risks of harm.

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  13. FabLibber / DaveSquirrel Post author

    LOL, yes “miracle”. Well, any doctor that thinks of penis+vagina, sperm+ova, pregnancy, = miracle, should perhaps return ‘his’ medical degree to the cornflakes packet from whence it came.

    Plenty of het couples have been told it is unlikely that they would conceive (naturally), and yet do. This twanz-dressup pair are merely in the low fertility category due to the crap they inject/ingest into their bodies. Some females have also conceived whilst being on the OCP. But, it is never a good idea to be on (particularly unnecessary) medications during pregnancy, as many drugs cross the placental barrier.

    Then we have meeja and medical profession hypocrisy – these two groups are constantly attacking FAB women for being “irresponsible mothers” by doing this or that during pregnancy – but somehow twanz are getting a free pass due to the novelty value.

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  15. Linda Radfem

    Somebody upthread mentioned Downs Syndrome, and the actual mother does appear to have those features. If this woman does indeed have a disability then this whole thing is a horrific case of transploitation. This man has harvested her child from her in order to claim the mother/child bond for himself.

    To turn the whole “miracle” meme on its head, if, as they are claiming, Cai is the baby’s “father” wouldn’t it be more of a miracle if the “father” were the one to breastfeed? At least that way the child is benefiting from breast milk antibodies. Using the feeding device is just a case of an entitled man playing dollies.

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  16. Linda Radfem

    That first pic is very telling. A woman gazing down at her newborn, and a man making eyes at a camera.

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  17. KatieS

    Excellent points, Linda. It’s possible that the bio mother may not be able to breastfeed due to having “top surgery.” That was sad to contemplate.

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  18. cherryblossomlife

    “This man harvested her child from her in order to claim the mother-child bond for himself”

    Yes, I think that’s what has happened here. The only consolation is that, despite what men think, the universe is more mysterious than they think and can’t be broken down into sterile atoms and cells and technology. A child always knows who its mother is. I’ve read very interesting memoirs of adopted children who went in search of their birth mothers later in life.

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  19. fabflowers

    minstrelizing mothers as well… when will the tragedy end!

    thanks for sharing this too, fablibber, this is disgusting and wrong, but then we can’t expect any less from teh menz huh. i’m not surprised that despite already having usurped her role as female in the relationship, this asshole is not content to let it slide that he’s actually the child’s FATHER not it’s mother. 😦

    stories like this make me enraged but at the same time justified in feeling super-twanzphobic. these tossers deserve it.

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  21. ancientbrain

    Gobsmacked, my life must be more sheltered than I’ve ever imagined. Neither my wife or daughter or any of their lady friends consider a male eunuch to be female (that’s well freudian i.e discredited quack) although one of my son’s interrogated me as to why I don’t think twannies are the real deal (trust me, dear boy).
    We had am independent volvo (correct spelling, not u & a) specialist mechanic who announced he was going to change, after that he bitched about my ancient tank and his workpersonship went downhill.
    Anyway love to you all, it’s refreshing to find something in common with someone somewhere however strange we might all be in other ways.

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