Militancy is our only option


How long will it be before feminists, particularly radical feminists, be declared ‘terrorists’ by the malestream? Don’t laugh, it could easily happen.

Several streams of consciousness are colliding in my brain today. Reading two posts at Cherryblossomlife’s; the white boyz and their ability to keep switching ‘others’ from friend/foe/friend, and how many daughters can you kill before women snap? Because I think I may be approaching ‘snapping’ point very bloody soon.

For the last four or five years, we have been witnessing the erasure of women-only services and women-only spaces. As discussed on the Poppy Project thread, the government have gradually been de-funding women-only projects (because they are not ‘male inclusive’), so either the projects have to put disproportionate resources to increase services to cover males, or lose funding all together. This is more than clear on the Poppy Project, even though it is primarily females that are trafficked for the ‘sex industry’. Possibly there would be young males trafficked for sex, but more likely they are trafficked for labour. So the government have been quite instrumental in funding FAB-only organisations out of existence – these are organisations started 30-40 years by second wave feminists. And the M2T invasion of FAB-only spaces and services also has the full government backing, so fucking fast that it makes your head spin. That’s right, tranz have managed to ‘win’ their tranz-rights in just a few short years, no massive street protests, no 100+ years like suffragettes had to do. Handed to them on a plate.

The message is clear. The government backs the mainly-male tranz movement, and sabotages FAB-only services. They have already done it. FAB-only services, some have gone under, and most are just hanging on by their fingernails.

Now, cast your mind back to the Second World War to the 1950s. Women were expected to strongly support the war effort by staffing the factories and making munitions and aircraft, and all the vacancies left by the ‘boys doing their duty for their country’. As soon as the war was over, a pat on the head and ‘get back into the kitchen’ for the women, and ‘hail the returning heroes’ for the menz. That government propaganda campaign took less than a decade to turn around. One minute women were useful and vital to the workforce, the next they were surplus.

In this last decade, the female bid for equality has come around and bitten us on our collective asses. Somehow ‘gender equality’ turned into ‘gender neutrality’, meaning ‘menz are victims too!!!’ and the effective loss of the right to have FAB-only services, even when FABs are clearly the majority victims of domestic and sexualised male violence.

We are witnessing the beginning of the end of (second wave) feminist FAB-only services, probably already The End, these are probably the death rattles. These services cannot continue to survive for much longer, and one-by-one they will be funded out of existence.

Meanwhile, male violence against women and children continues unabated. Again, the Law only give token sanctions against most of the male offenders, only the most outrageously violent and bad get locked up eventually, but not until they have left dozens or even hundreds of victims in their wake. Men’s laws are an absolute joke at protecting women, and many children.

Just a few years ago, the common statistic was that 1 in 4 women would be raped or sexually assaulted within their lifetimes, this figure (from some sources) has now crept up to 1 in 3. That is quite a huge jump in such a short time, meaning the rape culture has actually reached pandemic proportions with exponential growth.

We have the general propaganda that women have achieved ‘equality’ and that there is ‘no need for feminism, job done’. The funfems believe this shit hook, line and sinker; they busy their time ‘fighting’ for the ‘right’ for women to look as sexxay as possible, with ’empowerment’ and ‘individual choices’ being the two useless platforms. My advice to the Third Wave is to get onboard, or get out of the fucking way. Seriously, wake-the-fuck-up, and smell the damn patriarchy. The stench is overpowering.

Females are being destroyed both slowly and quickly. Female infantcide is rampant in countries like China and India. Yet, in somewhere like Papua New Guinea, where the women of two warring tribes got together and decided to practise male infantcide to bring an end to the warring, the missionaries move in quicksmart and put an end to the ‘barbaric’ practise. Apparently the “pwecious baybees” worth saving, are only worth saving if they are male. Females everywhere are destroyed slowly by rape, the constant threat of rape, FGM, foot-binding, stupid western beauty ideals and everything else.

When are we going to say “enough”?

When are we going to get militant again?

Asking nicely, playing by the ‘equality’ rules, has not worked as a strategy. Allowing men’s laws to work on our behalf for justice has not worked.

Feminism, and working for women-only has become a dirty word. What is to stop them declaring feminists as terrorists? The Suffragettes were regarded as terrorists, but they killed no-one. Males and male religions go around killing thousands and millions, and only a few of them get declared terrorists, depending on the political agenda of the time.

The time has passed to ‘play nicely’. The time has come again to be militant. It won’t be that long before we are declared militants and terrorists anyway. Perhaps we should put our pacifism aside, and actually become militant once again. I don’t see any other way out.

79 thoughts on “Militancy is our only option

  1. noanodyne

    Well I sure as hell would like to know what will be enough to get women to this place. I was in an online debate last week (not in the radfemisphere) with a woman who is absolutely convinced that speaking slowly, kindly, and in basic concepts is the way to win a battle with a faction that is using every tactic except murder to get their way (they bully and harass both online and IRL). She and I were debating because I was going after that faction with radfem guns blazing and she spent her precious time and energy trying to talk me out of using such a tactic. My way is counterproductive, doncha know. I pointed out that her tactic has not worked in the decades she and others have been using it. She said, yeah, I know, but yours won’t work either. Somehow she just magically knows this. Even her activism is colonized FFS.

    Well it’s about fucking time we ALL did it anyway and back it up with hard core militancy. Great post, FAB.

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  2. FAB Libber

    Gosh, even my mother, who is kind of a radfem at her core, still thinks ‘nicely’ is the way forward. I had a mini-argument with her on the phone today, about excusing menz and their irresponsible and immature behaviours. 🙄

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  3. radfemcrafts

    Militant as fuck over here. 🙂 Pacifists and polite middle class society first up against the wall. 😉

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  4. thebewilderness

    One of the quotes on the mansplaintransplain blog was:

    “Can somebody call the Southern Poverty Law Center and get them to declare radical feminism a hate group?”
    ~ monica roberts

    Why not? Disobeying men and disagreeing with men has always been considered a hate crime, by men. Might as well make it official.
    We could use the publicity.

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  5. joy

    I’ve already been arrested twice and brutalized by police for my feminist “terrorism,” so welcome to the party, we don’t mind that you’re late.

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  6. joy

    Yes, especially with extra-special asskicking boots. Although that may get you detained under the suspicion of radical feminist terrorism.

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  7. Sargasso Sea

    Well, hell, the way the lefty liberal dickwads bandy about the word “radical” these days, like anyone and everyone has a damn dirty bomb in their panties, we might as well take advantage of it.

    *bombs* come in all different shapes and sizes just like women and girls.

    !RFLF! 😛

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  8. FCM

    any of us that have engaged in trans-criticism have ALREADY been branded terrorists. this happened when our criticism was framed, BY THEM, as hate-speech. i have said at my place that if i disappear for any length of time, i hope someone calls catharine mackinnon. i am not kidding when i say that either, as i am pretty sure i already *am* on a terror watch list. i imagine several of us are.

    regarding the equality-model, mackinnon illustrates how well this has worked for us…when MEN appear to be the perfect plaintiff in a sexual-discrimination case, whatever the issue. yes, you heard that right. MEN are the perfect plaintiff. not women. women are never perfect, anything. being that men are the default humans, always.

    but make of this what you will: i dont think that women who have something to lose are going to go for broke, like what you appear to be describing. and most of us *do* have something to lose. we all have everything to lose actually, whatever our “everything” is. i can tell you FOR SURE that i am not willing to be “arrested and brutalized by the cops for feminist terrorism.” no, and no. i dont know what the solution to this is, either. i know that the whole “career-track” and access to professionalism for women (such as it is) has given some of us the IDEA that we have more to lose now, than we did before. (its still EVERYTHING though, like it was before). so perhaps the key will be literally for the best-off to be “silent partners” and fund other womens activism. which is EXACTLY the kind of thing that terrorists do isnt it?

    this feels like a sinking ship to me, i am sorry. its fucking terrifying. and…what do we mean by “militant” exactly?

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  9. joy

    Yeah, it sucked. Three cops with nightsticks got me down on the ground and basically fucked the rest of my day up, just for “suspicion of being a nonconformist lesbian rabblerouser.” I don’t even think they knew I have radical politics, although they did remind me that my record for being arrested at political (read, anarchist) protests meant that they could do basically whatever they wanted to me. Even moreso than the default.

    Basically, not only could they potentially beat, rape, browbeat, abuse, disbelieve, and falsely imprison me at their whims, they could also “disappear” me if they wanted to and nobody would ever be able to get me back (even if only to recover a body).

    That doesn’t mean I’m going to stop being militant. They can do whatever they want to me anyway, right? I’m just going to be more clever about it.
    Maybe people don’t want to lose everything, but frankly, we live in a patriarchy. We’ve already lost everything. The only things we have are placeholders and pacifiers.

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  10. FAB Libber

    Well, by the time you are around 50 as a woman, most will find their ‘career’ in the toilet, so not much to risk after that point.

    Anyway, the situation is clear. We are losing ground faster than we ever gained it. We need to sit up and take notice. We need to get mass numbers of women protesting in the streets again. Don’t wait until absolutely everything is taken away. We need to start thinking about this now.

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  11. FCM

    “protesting in the streets” however is NOT what you linked to FAB. that article on “militant suffregettes” mentioned property-damage stuff up to and including burning down politicians houses, being arrested and then going on hunger strikes, that kind of thing. what are we talking about here?

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  12. FAB Libber

    Protesting in the streets is the start, it is what needs to be done again.
    I guess the other stuff comes out of years and years of frustration. I am not suggesting violent protests straight off, but there may come a point.

    But doing nothing, even blogging and writing letters, are things that are easily ignored. Massive numbers in the streets, like in the 70s, is what got them noticed.

    It is time to get angry again.

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  13. FAB Libber

    The purpose of this post (apart from some own personal anger release) is to make everyone aware that the war against us has already started, particularly in the FAB-only services where women are the majority of victims. We do need to start action, visible action, now. Not wait until it gets worse, because I have been seeing how damn fast it has been moving over the last 4-5 years. It is a trend, not a blip.

    We tend to be far too civil, with writing letters and small gatherings. Sometimes that does work a little, but we now need more. And be prepared to continue for however long it takes. Because I really wonder how bad it has to get before women will take action. Campaigns, not just one off protests here and there.

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  14. thebewilderness

    I’ve already been arrested twice and brutalized by police for my feminist “terrorism,” so welcome to the party, we don’t mind that you’re late.

    Are you speaking to me?

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  15. Sargasso Sea

    Women’s militancy is on a continuum too.

    As I said, *bombs* come in all shapes and sizes. Some women’s *bombs* look like blogs with brilliant insight. Other women’s *bombs* look entirely different and some women’s haven’t even been dreamed up yet.

    Yes, damn straight we need women in real numbers in the streets again, sooner rather than later, and it doesn’t have to be property-destructive or violent; to each her own risk comfort level. The time IS now, again, before there’s nothing left to build on.

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  16. joy

    No, sorry, TBL, it was just a flippant comment on my part. It wasn’t meant with malice towards anyone, just to say: this has already happened. It’s already true.

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  17. cherryblossomlife

    hi,
    the sheer *militancy* of you all is energizing [smile]

    I think the revolution will come from women who have Nothing To Lose Having Lost Everything Already. Perhaps from women thrown off their land by Tesco or Wallmart in a third world country, perhaps the mother of a dead daughter…
    Lots of women will die probably, but *no* *more* than the amount that are dying at the hands of men every day.

    Chechen women who have lost all their children (and husbands) at the hands of Russian troops have turned to terrorism. they’re called the Black Widows if I recall.

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  18. Miska

    I’ve been thinking a lot about strategy lately, and have a post planned about this very issue. There isnt much in the way of feminist direct action these days, but then there isnt much of any direct action these days. An older academic I know remarked that back in the 70s, 80s and 90s the campus grounds were host to protests and whatnot every other day, whereas nowadays they are few and far between and no one really turns up anyway. I think the meaning of activism is changing. I dont know that the old activist methods like marching etc are as useful as they used to be.

    modern western feminism is basically confined to the internet, and also it is largely reactionary. Some idiot politician says something sexist and half the feminist internet spew out a few blog posts in response, and That’s Feminist Activism. The interaction between feminism and the rest of the world only flows in one direction, if you know what I mean. I do think feminism needs to start acting and not just reacting, but I also think there are several roadblocks in the way which prevent this from happening.

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  19. Miska

    Also, I do think that there is the possibility to be militant without facing terrible consequences. Look at 4-ch-an. I would describe them as militant. They decide to go after a person or org and then they go ahead and wreak havoc. But they face no consequences because they are anonymous and because a lot of their actions arent technically illegal.

    Feminism could have something like that. Imagine that some dudebros start another one of those YAY RAPE facebook groups they’re always making, but then thousands of anonymous women go after them a la 4-ch-an, and make a tidy example out of them. Imagine what kind of message that would send to other men. And the message it would send to other women (we dont have to put up with this crap).

    There’s nothing stopping women from having this kind of platform for consequence-free militant activism. Except for … women. I think many women, if given the chance to attack a rape-apologist or whatever without fear of reprisal STILL wouldnt do it. Because it’s mean! And they’ve been socialized to believe that they must always be nice, and that as long as they’re nice enough eventually they will be rewarded for it, despite all evidence to the contrary. If all women were as mean as me, we could have the radical feminist revolution tomorrow, ha.

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  20. T. Laurel Sulfate, Snarkurchin

    @Sargasso Sea, Speaking of misuse of the word “radical”…

    I am, in fact, a radical feminist, in the traditional sense of the term. Radical feminists are a broad group that include [sic] Susie Bright and Andrea Dworkin. They are, simply put, feminists who believe that it’s not enough to grant women legal equality. We must also redefine gender and remake culture so that men and women aren’t in gender straightjackets [sic]. The notion that the law shouldn’t assume up front that men have a breadwinner role in the family and any family that differs from submissive wife/breadwinning father *is* radical feminism.
    Amanda Marcotte

    Yeah. Miss “Susie IWearATiaraOnMyWikipediaPage Sexpert” is a radical feminist. In the traditional sense of the term. Because women get paychecks or…something…? Also, “broad group”? Really?

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  21. FCM

    miska, you know way more about 4chan than i do, what are they all about really? what are their demographics, politics etc? my impression of them is that they are mostly men, mostly liberal, pornick and porn-soaked, and that they *are* in fact terrorists. BUT the only reason they get away with it is that they literally represent the values of the power structure, and are therefore supportive of it, and not a real threat to anything that matters. THATS why they get away with what they are doing: they have a sponsor, and its the P. no?

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  22. FAB Libber

    Yes, damn straight we need women in real numbers in the streets again, sooner rather than later, and it doesn’t have to be property-destructive or violent; to each her own risk comfort level. The time IS now, again, before there’s nothing left to build on.
    Yes SarSea, that is exactly what I am saying.

    Hi Miska, welcome, yes you are right on a lot of points there, women are socialised into being nicey nicey (and hence my and CBL’s question of how much violence from menz does it take to wake them up out of their nicey zombie-like existence?). Yes too that campuses are less political, even in the 80s they were lacklustre. I had to edit your reference to you-know-who.

    Online radfems have woken up to the tactics and threats by transjactivists, but not all have been aware of the SYSTEMATIC attack on FAB-only services from the govt, so it is a two-pronged attack on FABs. We still have most rapists walking free, most don’t even see the inside of a courtroom, even the reported ones. The conviction rate (still less than 7% in the UK) used to over 30% back in the late-70s/80s, so the legal system continues to enable rapists and the rape culture.

    We need to mobilise, we need to get visible again.
    Nicey nicey letter writing to MPs just isn’t enough.

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  23. Miska

    @FCM, you’ve nailed the ch-an demographics, except I would describe them as libertarian if anything, rather than liberal. They dont even pay lip service to liberal values. It’s all cumbucket-this and nigger-that on the boards. It’s true that 4-ch-an represents the powers that be: white, male, straight, western. I agree that this helps them evade repercussions. But the biggest thing that keeps them safe is anonymity, and the swarm like behavior of their attacks. It’s like music piracy. A million people download a song, and the gov cant possibly prosecute or even investigate everyone. The risk is so dispersed, that for any one person it’s pretty much negligible. To my knowledge no-one has ever been prosecuted through taking part in 4-ch-an attacks (but I havent paid attention to 4-ch-an for several years now). 4-ch-an’s main triumph is how it uses swarming behavior to achieve a result, without any of the individual participants actually doing anything illegal (like, for example, the way they gamed the google search system so a swastika appeared as the top result on google trends).

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  24. FAB Libber

    Sorry fablibber, forgot to break up the name!
    Fixed it.
    I might also make that a modding word/term too. I wonder if WP has an auto-replace function for words, must investigate.

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  25. FAB Libber

    Oh, recently in the UK, there were a couple of peeps arrested after site attacks earlier this year, but only about three. This was around the time credit card companies and stuff were being targeted (can’t even remember the targets now).

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  26. Miska

    are you referring to DDoS attacks? Now they are an example of illegal activity. And kind of stupid. All that effort and risk but all you get out of it is taking a website down for a short time.

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  27. FAB Libber

    Yeah, recent DDoS attacks. You are right, the results are generally little more than an inconvenience for a few hours or a day.

    Sometimes though, the attacks are not just DDoS, but actual hacks, and the content is replaced (or information from client/member database is taken).

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  28. noanodyne

    For me, “militancy” is fighting back with tactics (or weapons) that cause someone some real hurt (not usually physical, that just enrages people but I will make exceptions for rapists and woman-killers, but more often in the wallet, in the ego, in the reputation, in whatever someone holds dear). Sady at Tiger Beatdown (and many others) shamed Michael Moore for weeks through Twitter until he asked for a truce. In front of many thousands of people. Of course he’s not suddenly a feminist, but his uber-progressive cover was blown and it looked like he was humiliated by that. And that will have to be enough. Winning small victories like that, regularly, would be effective.

    But a lot of the most effective tactics are ugly and women hate fighting dirty; but look how effective it is for men. And we can’t worry about looking good while we’re fighting — what backs a lot of women down from public fights is when they’re accused of being ball breakers, dykes, etc. The hallmark of liberal feminism is playing nice with the boys to get a few more scraps from the table. And it “works” (in their frame, even though they’re just as likely to get kicked in the teeth). Jessica Valenti, who never scared anyone, ever, has some token status and I guess that gives her cadre of collaborators hope and comfort. Militancy is everything that is not.

    If we are militant it’s going to be ugly and dirty and it’s going to look and feel like a fight. Someone asked me in an online convo recently if I would talk to or about a trans person IRL the way I do online and the fact is, I already have, in very public venues. But it’s absolutely in my nature to fight back when someone’s stomping on my feet. It’s knee jerk. And I’ve been harshly criticized by other women my whole life for reacting like that. As Miska says, we’re socialized that way (and I don’t get a pass for that, I’ve been known to back down because of social pressure, too).

    I think the idea of playing dirty using online tactics is def worth exploring, but with a clear eye on what’s been happening in the boyz world of this. Here’s a good summary article about the players in a recent DDoS attack:
    http://www.securitynewsdaily.com/anonymous-hacktivists-attack-god-hates-fags-websites-0557/

    The article ends with this quote: Never get into a mud fight with a pig, because you’ll only get dirty and the pig will enjoy it. I think that’s apt when you’re talking about entering the world of libertarian, sexist, racist assholes with nothing to lose. The trick is to change the venue so you’re not in their mudhole. So I would restate that warning as: If you decide to get into a fight with someone who likes mud, move the fight to a swimming pool and drown the prick.

    How we could do that is a really good question.

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  29. jilla

    There’s two things I think of when we talk about fighting dirty:

    We have been the victims of those militant tactics, both in real and online, within the past five years, both from men and other women calling themselves radical feminists.

    We have children.

    Now if “they” would only keep their retribution to those who don’t have children, I’d say fine go for it. “They” won’t.

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  30. noanodyne

    This is the impasse that it always comes down to: we’re fighting because they won’t let us live full lives, but we don’t want to fight so hard that they will raise the level of the fight. It’s just the threat of that that settles us right back down. At some point, it will have to be worth it for women to risk it all. It will take figuring out that the slow-method of maiming and killing us and our children isn’t much different than all-out assault.

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  31. jilla

    (I made this post slightly differently, in a wrong thread. Trying again.)

    I think we have said the same thing. It always comes back to this… .

    Maybe we are the earth sex, the one left with protecting the children whether they are ours or not. Whether we can, or would have them. Because men do take them. They are taking them now, raping them, pornifying them in this their war against us, as surely as they rape Iraqi and Bosnian women. This is what they do to the children, rape out a generation.

    But maybe Mother Earth (for those who go there) is taking matters into her own hands. She’s going to kill us all off. She’ll still be here, battered, war-torn, a Mars-sylph of herself. But she will survive. Maybe she’s purging us.

    (I wonder what’s got you so emotionally charged NoAn. Not that there isn’t *always* reason as a woman to feel rage and murderous intent. But I’ve not seen you post like this before. One of the calm, rational ones, I always thought. Although you didn’t make the head post, but commented to it, I wonder, what’s going on with you NoAn?

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  32. FCM

    from the link, where a mother set her daughters rapist on fire…after the prison gave him a 3-day pass, and he returned to their hometown and taunted the victims mother when he saw her in the street by sneering “how is your daughter?”:

    [the] attack on the woman’s teenage daughter took place in 1998. The girl was going to buy a loaf of bread when Soriano snatched her from the street, threatened her with a knife and raped her. Her mother is said to have suffered mental illness ever since.

    extreme and righteous rage directed at a man who has wronged you, and despair at being utterly powerless in a misogynist world, is considered “mental illness.” this is what we are up against. womens rage is unacceptable. our despair is mocked. i am heartened to see that she was “cheered” for what she did, however, she is now in the hands of the prison system, being subjected to “psychological tests.” civilians might cheer her, but the system will fucking crucify her.

    i was happy to hear that he lived for 11 days before he died of the burns covering 60% of his body. i hope he was in excruciating pain the entire time.

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  33. FAB Libber

    They probably had him drugged up for the 11 days, alas.
    Even if not, his 11 days is hardly equal to the lifetime punishment the mother & daughter face.

    And yes, when individual women retaliate, they will be picked off one-by-one by the system, the supposed system of justice – which has no real justice for women or girls.

    We need numbers. Numbers to show we will not tolerate this system any more.

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  34. FAB Libber

    A link via lesbonaut on Annie Oakley:
    http://carolyngage.weebly.com/why-annie-got-her-gun.html

    In her lifetime, Annie Oakley taught thousands of women to shoot. On her first visit to London, she took out a newspaper ad offering to give lessons on the use of pistols, rifles, and shotguns “to ladies only,” and back in the States she continued her campaign of free lessons.
    […]
    According to Oakley, “Every intelligent woman should become familiar with the use of firearms.” She anticipated the day when women would handle guns “as naturally as they handle babies.”
    […]
    Annie Oakley had learned the hard way that independence is something to be asserted, not granted. Oakley seemed to understand that the shortest distance to reforms for women was not through the torturous machinations of the electoral process, but by the mere presence of a female population universally armed and presumed dangerous. Far from being old-fashioned and conservative on the subject of women’s rights, Annie Oakley was radical and far-sighted. It appears that we feminists have yet to catch up to Oakley’s vision of a world made safe by women.

    Amazing.

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  35. survivorthriver

    Hey, thanks BB for sending me over here, and here I am! I do remember feminist discussions in the early 1970’s where a conscious choice was made NOT to be militant because the MIC is so over-powerful we’d just be wiped out before any spread of the feminist meme was possible.

    I heard elsewhere that a good model for targeting militant action was SHAC (Stop Huntington Animal Cruelty) where some individuals researched those responsible, and had a Tor browser protected wiki site where they reported their findings, and other individuals were free to take direct action against those individuals/sites. The researchers must not recommend any actions, nor have any connection to those who would take direct action.

    I’m thinking that the ancient female wisdom of poisoning is relevant. The elites require 4,000 remoras (think those tiny fish that groom the sharks) for maintenance. A well-connected caterer needs lots of part-time remoras and who would know if a friend sashayed in with a vial of….please let me know if this violates security speech or if there is a better venue for details.

    Dickipedia is an existing wiki site, anonymous and a place where industry based (entertainment predators, banking predators, etc) dick information could be uploaded.

    My bones tell me to stay safe to protect the grandchildren. When I was 22 I became aware of my fingers as the blind instruments in a river of destiny, and I have 40,000 years of songs whispering through my veins. My ancestors were murdered in the Burning Times. Neither my mother nor my grandmother ever had an orgasm, I asked them is how I know. To become sexual in my lifetime was breaking a silent code which my women followed to be safe. I believe it goes back to Iron Ages co-optation. I also broke the silence on rape and molestation, and, much to my chagrin, see the efforts to liberate women’s sexuality having been turned against us with a pornification of female sexuality. Arrgh.

    They can’t crucify us all, yes. Personally, I think women might be devious, very very devious. Don’t show our hand, keep the element of surprise. March yes, against very specific actors such as banks, or show support for Planned Parenthood?

    I also feel the Celtic wild women in my veins. My father, Welsh blood. My mother, Danish blood, wild witches.

    Acting out in sheer numbers is one thing, but well targeted strategic actions from isolated “cells” of 1-3 women based on publicly available information might also be useful?

    Oh, secretly I was going to abort my second pregnancy if it were a male. Because I was over 40 I was eligible for a chorionic villus sampling early in pregnancy and did so. She was a girl, and had that baby. I understand many sex selections are for males, but not all. I am behind aborting male fetus for as long as it takes. Sorry, but only can speak on that because it was my plan. I know abortion for sex selection is one of the targets for clamp down, and I wonder, is that because more males are aborted in U.S. now? I guess there’s no statistics on that.

    Thanks again BB for sending me over here, like I told you, I have said recently that I vacillate between being a Buddhist nun and a sniper. It’s a tough fence.

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  36. FAB Libber

    Hiya ST, welcome.
    Many good things to think about. Definitely divvying up roles within the (non-)organisation is a good thing. We also might need things like a pool of funds for bail money and stuff.

    But, probably best not to talk in too much detail in public.

    The important message that the dudes need to understand – you have pushed us far enough, and we will fight back. Totally sick of your pornsick, dickcentric world. An uprising is coming, it is in the wind.

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  37. Sargasso Sea

    Personally, I am not a fan of firearms unless cute chicks are brandishing them. 😛

    We favor big dogs in the little wood. Those who have been abused by men tend to be *abnormally* opposed to men in the den. They are our TRUE allies.

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  38. survivorthriver

    BB, don’t inflate my ego. Well, I do consort with a coven of 40 years place-based female owned real estate owned pagan reality. My grade school friends partner is a great-grandmother leader there. There are so many examples of pretty tools still, multiple necklaces and rings, “poison pendants and poison rings” still available for the purchase on e-Bay. She-Bay? I purchased a vintage silver pendant in Sumatra in 1981, with a secret opening in the back. Very tribal looking, 150 years old. Sold as “prayer necklace”….oops, spilled something! Sumatra was a very recent matriarchal outpost – must’ve hid well from the xtiann onslaught b/c Bukitinggi still matrilineal although young dudes going to city for jobs….and don’t know about their Sumatran head hunter collaboration days, might not be pretty for all women.

    I’m just a lowly novelist (one complete great rejection letter and 3 partials, poetry collection and write for a living now), but I’m getting quite zoned in on the “next project”. If vampires are popular now, might nouveau witches wear well? Anarchist nouveau-witch herbalist artist nun? Saltpetre is so AVAILABLE, for the average caterer/cook. Come on, served with booze (especially bourbon that dulls the palate) it should be a no-brainer. Saltpetre distribution should be as possibly common as communion? Oh Goddess, don’t get me started.

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  39. cherryblossomlife

    I really feel a truth, deep in my bones: that if a man raped my daughter, I would kill him in a heartbeat. Silent and stealth like. Burning would be good.
    Ten years ago, I wouldn’t have said that.
    Who knows, in another ten years time, I might kill a man who raped another woman’s daughter.

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  40. FAB Libber

    Understandable CBL, the justice system is failing to deter the ongoing rape culture – even for paedophiles, who clock up many victims before they are locked up (and even then, not for life).

    Hint: You might also have access to a lot of Puffer Fish Livers where you live 😉

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  41. FAB Libber

    The recipes are endless:
    Fugu-liver tea
    Fugu-liver soup
    Dried Fugu-liver seasoning
    Fugu-liver marinade

    Might need a little rattlesnake venom side dish to make sure the job is done… 😉

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  42. survivorthriver

    “Ricin is a toxalbumin that may be extracted from the castor bean (Ricinus communis). ” The pulp from eight beans is considered toxic for an adult.

    We’ve all got seed catalogs, heard that ricin isn’t hard to manufacture. Maybe a contaminated box of Girl Scout cookies sold door to door just for special friends. Ding dong, rapist delight for sale! Well, maybe some chille con carne y castor beans would work better.

    Venom for culture vipers, that’s got some legs too.

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  43. FAB Libber

    chille con carne y castor beans LOL

    Not 😛 to give anyone ideas or anything (sorry, hard to keep a straight face typing that) a rather interesting website:
    http://www.thepoisongarden.co.uk/default.htm

    Sadly, according to this site, the chille con carne y castor beans does not seem to be reliable:
    http://www.thepoisongarden.co.uk/atoz/ricinus_communis.htm

    But I might have an old umbrella lying around somewhere 😛

    Oh yeah, had better put in the standard disclaimer of “yaddah yaddah yaddah, don’t mean it and stuff yaddah yaddah”. Legal bases covered; check!

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  44. Sargasso Sea

    I mean, really, this is just a little game we like to play. It’s just fantasy; no one is getting hurt. It’s no big deal. We’re just better at compartmentalizing and besides that it’s totally natural and healthy even to want to kill men.

    All you moralists need to stop being so uptight. Jeez.

    🙂

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  45. FAB Libber

    SarSea, the sex mozzers (and in particular the bdsmers) might get a bit sulky if we pinch their excuses arguments.

    Perhaps more of us need to learn code, and make video games with this stuff in it? After all, it’s all harmless fun™ right? right?

    Perhaps we can call it “manicide play”? After all, sticking the word ‘play’ onto the end of harmful practises suddenly makes it all warm and fuzzy! Works for them.

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  46. survivorthriver

    Love the Poison Garden. Used to cultivate foxglove (digitalis), and did some baby rose wood seeds, datura in my day. Work now with a native and medicinal herb specialist, she’ll be great to help plot the next novel or any sub-plots.

    There was an incident in Tacoma, WAshington last week, a 66 year old dude had a padded cell attached to his mobile where he chained/raped/electroded a hooker. She texted a friend en route when dude went to get cigs for her, with his license plate and msg. to rescue her if not back by midnight and dude did release her when he checked her text and saw the evidence of his imminent bust. She had asked him if he was going to kill her and he’d said maybe. But, she was resuced by police after friend called them. Well! Newspaper comments under Tacoma and Seattle newspaper articles talked about normal “role playing” and how prosti knew what she was getting into. I of course take every opp to post anti-prOn and anti-prosti stuff. Shit fuck damn. Role play my ass. Am I right that BDSM got transferred over from gay boy and sick fuckers via porno to mainstream? Not to blame “gay” but….how the hell did that crap crawl out of Marquis de Sade’s grave? Please educate me, although I did know a dyke whose partner got her into that and Artemis willed her full body harness to me but I refused that bestowal. She knew I hated pain associated to sex. And, back to sick bondage dude, any recommendations for my public comments for upcoming articles on that puppy?

    Anyway! Back to the amusement du jour – tales of a gang of femmes gone radically bad ass on rapists and pedophiles. I’m collecting ideas for the short story, and would also need some simulated photos. Dudes with ball gags looking sweaty and ridiculous. Intimidated by gang of gorgons orgasming menstrual blood on his face. But, an example that is NOT something a perv could get off on…but “educational” as in….how would YOU like this dudes. Does this look remotely sexy? And, then the gang gets a call, alert alert, known neighborhood sex perf, rapist coming in the neighbors window. I dunno, I’m all for “pen is mightier than the sword” especially if some funny shit went viral.

    Gosh, this will take a lot of cleverness to finesse. Just a fictional project here! For educational purposes. Muahahaha – love that laugh.

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  47. joy

    Menocide play, yes, I do think I like that.

    My tactic right now is to say it in that “joking” tone of voice that I have — the one I’ve cultivated that confuses men more than usual, “Is she serious, is she joking, or is she just so much cooler than I am that I don’t get it? Must be that, so I should play along lest she stop thinking I’m cool.”
    (It’s a reversal of a concept in the SCUM Manifesto, actually, and it plays on male insecurity the way they typically play on ours. Also, I really am just a lot cooler than any given dude anyway.)

    So they laugh, “Haha, menocide! I don’t get it. She’s just really radical and making a really radical joke that I don’t get because I’m square. She wouldn’t really ever do anything bad though. I do get that!”

    Boy, won’t they be really surprised someday.

    But it was all in play, officer. You can’t take any of this seriously. After all, when you come right down to it, it’s just a man’s word against mine, and we all know men lie out their asses all the time.

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  48. survivorthriver

    “Yes, officer, dude really liked rough sex play so we were making love just like usual. Hey! There’s a catalog here of “role play” other men like it too, we’d been looking at that right before….well, ocifer, I think I’m going to cry. Oh god, he looked so darling with a ball gag in his mouth like a roast suckling pig and that “come hither” look. “

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  49. FAB Libber

    LOL, WJ. brilliant!
    From the site:

    Ever had one of those seemingly endless days?
    All you want to do is to get home… You’re the last one out of the office. Its getting dark outside…

    You walk down the streets and realize the streetlights are burnt out.
    There’s no one around. You hear a footstep behind you. The light flickers.

    You turn and he says, “I wanna lick you all over…..”

    And then you remember, you’re packing a 3′ long .80 caliber machine gun that’s locked and loaded.

    Ladies, are you sick and tired of catcalling, hollering, obnoxious one-liners and creepy street encounters? Tired of changing your route home to avoid uncomfortable situations?

    IT’S PAYBACK TIME, BOYS…..

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  50. Mary Sunshine

    Ahhh!!! That’s gonna be my new solitaire. There’s a “PLAY” tab, you dload a little online player app, & you can play for a limited time.

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  51. survivorthriver

    Yes, please, Radfem video game company! Proceeds donated to …..fill in the blank.

    The videos could have sub-plots of poisonings and bingo! I mean a virtual poison garden and distillation how to.

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  52. survivorthriver

    You in New York have an opportunity to support (D) Schumer’s bill to create a National Missing Persons center. Support this! And, make them change the name to at least the Billy and Suzie Law. Or, better yet, the National Missing Persons law.

    Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., is co-sponsoring legislation to help coordinate national missing people systems.

    The Help Find the Missing Act, also called “Billy’s Law,” would authorize the National Missing Persons and Unidentified Persons System to provide a database that the public could access. It would also connect the existing database with the FBI’s National Crime Information Center.

    The law contains a provision for a grant program that would help states and local law enforcement to report missing people and unidentified remains to the national missing people and crime databases.

    Billy’s Law is named for Billy Smolinski of Waterbury, Conn., who disappeared on Aug. 24, 2004, at the age of 31.

    Although federal law mandates police agencies to report missing children, there are no such requirements for adults or unidentified remains.

    Rochester Institute of Technology professor Paloma Capanna wrote to Schumer in support of Billy’s Law, after the recent search for student George Delany, who vanished on March 12. RIT faculty and students joined the search effort. Delany’s remains were found April 17 in Cohocton, Steuben County.

    “At least two college students go missing every week,” Capanna wrote. “And, nationwide, more than 20,000 persons are reported missing each year. The federal government should intervene to ensure that any barriers to participation in and access to all available databases are eliminated, including supplements for any fees that may be prohibitive within county budgets.”

    Schumer said Monday that Billy’s Law will provide law enforcement officials with the tools and resources to better search for missing adults by creating a central resource for officials and families.

    “Just as we provide law enforcement with tools like the Amber alert and access to missing person databases when children are missing, we should not tolerate delays and lapses in information when people over the age of 18, like George Delany, are missing,” Schumer said

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  54. survivorthriver

    Billy’s Law was a senate sponsored bill, not N.Y., mea culpa.

    I’m in favor of a national missing persons database, then we’d know some facts, yes?

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  56. survivorthriver

    Say, Dave, could you credit that photo at the top of this post. It is hauntingly beautiful.

    Charles of angleworm nation

    Please don’t call me Chuck, my tail hurls that at myself when she’s not in the mood.

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  57. jilla

    Survivor I think it’s from the movie Bandit Queen, and not of Phoolan Devi, but the actress playing her. Many images on Google Imaage.

    Trigger (a gelding)

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  58. survivorthriver

    Jilla,
    What does Trigger (a gelding) mean?

    Is that related to my angleworm joke? Help:) Or, is that the character? Thx

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  59. survivorthriver

    Angleworms are underground creatures, totally un-socialized to most above ground terms. Thanks, maybe angleworms obviously like geldings too. I will speak for the angleworm underground!

    Thanks for patience, this is my alter-ego since age 10. A cartoon strip. A radical concept. But, nobody knows. It’s totally “underground” like worms.

    Well, if I was really funny and talented I’d be famous?

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  60. FAB Libber aka Dave the Squirrel

    Jilla/Trigga is correct in that I think it is from the film (which I have not seen). There are a few pictures of Phoolan Devi in the book (which I do have). I might scan them at some stage.

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